Suggestion for BRM raids + Onyxia

[Celesty]

I found a real good boost for fr for the raids in bwl and suff last week.. apparently if we all go into BRS the casters there have a fr buff for 80 fr lasts 1 hour.. so if we all go in there the priests can MC the casters at th start and we all get 80 bonus fr for the raid..

This can be done everytime we whipe too so it means a good bonus to the whole raid and would make everything much easier.. This might be abit far to travel all the time for Onyxia, but from what I see we dont realy need it either since reggie went down so easily I mean

[tsunam]

i don t think that s possible after the patch

and btw that´s consider an exploit

[Celesty]

It is possible after the patch. I saw a horde guild use the method saturday to get down vael. And about the exploit. It is a buff from the mobs. What do u think is the point of the mobs haveing a buff that lasts 1 hour if not for us to use it? How many mobs live 1 hour? And since this method has been used for a while I cant se why Blizzard havent removed it yet.

[tsunam]

because at blizzard they are all noobs

I saw that on blizzard forum, you can try and find it if you want.

stay cool

[Celesty]

ok well the guild I watched was Brutality. They almost got down veal when they tried. whiped at 0 % 3 times ^^

[Neotms]

Quote from ragie guide:

MCing Spellbinders to get their FR buff has been declared an exploit by at least one GM. There is no official word on the forums yet.

[Celesty]

Yeah I read that too but that means it is still not illegal.. There is no official word..

This means Blizzard is aware of the possibility of getting the fire buff from the casters, and that 1! of the hundreds of GMs think its an exploit. I think that verdict would have been declined if it was voted for

As I see it Blizzard must have put the buff there for us too use it..
My argument is: What would normal mobs at the start of the instance have an +80 FR buff with an 1 hour duration for if we werent alowed to use it? Those mobs usealy go dewon inlike 30 secs.. So why weould the duration be set to 1 hour?

And besides.. Since Blizzard have know of this for quite some time why havent they just removed the buff? or even reduced the duration? A 5 minutes duration would be more than enought for the mobs.. And it would be useless too players too

I just cant see how this could be called an exploit when Blizzard choose not to care.. and have just given us the buff on a silver plate

[Grizzly]

As a raidleader having this sort of buff to us would make all things cery different from when the buff is taken away even if it´s not an exploit.

This means that we would start wiping until we train and get more FR gear, so why not do it correctly the first times?

And if you´re thinking this will cut you off from the responsibility about getting FR you´re wrong. The buff is no free ride ticket to stop farming for FR gear. Ok by now most people have the desired FR, but there are alot of new peeps and old for that matter, who havn´t aquired it yet.

I don´t wanna get a warning due to someone getting the buff. And then having our epics from that boss taken away.

/G

[Celesty]

Yeah well it was just a suggestion. I thought it would be good for farming reggie at least.. 80 fr isnt enough even for him.. Ppl should have around 150 fr to take him, but the leaders decide I just gave u my oppinion.

[Grizzly]

WEll it´s different for each classes on raggie. And besides we don´t need the buff for raggie. We have him on farming status already. If you havn´t heard it already we´ve downed him the last 3 mc raids = 3 raggie kills for those who can´t count. =D

All rogues that were with us had aroudn 150 FR and that is excellent for melee classes since we stand so close to raggie and also "semi-tank" the sons. Caster shouldn´t gimp their mana all that much so 80 unbuffed is a marker for casters. Sure caster can get 150 FR unbuffed, but, you would have gimped your mana pool by half prolly, and it still wont help you that much when sons come. THey have a burning mana aura aswell that damages you. Key here is crowdcontrol. We got it all under control atm =).

If we would need that buff for anything it would be for Vael and Firemaw. BUt then we have the thing with buffs going away when you die. =)

[Celesty]

Well I dont say ppl should stop getting fr cause we would use the buff.. We still need to get the recomended amount of fr.. I just cant see why we cant use it? everything would be so much easier.. And for those who think its an exploit of a bug?? wtf? just tell me why it is? how would those caster mobs have any use for a 1 hour +80 fr buff? They lie like 30 secs.

And we could have bosses like reggie down in like half the time

And the only diffrence I see in the runs would be that we will make our preparations and buffing in brs instead of BWL or MC

Know im repeating myself but I just think it is so clear that this buff is ment for players too use

[Mordred]

too troublesome in my opinion... not worth 40 ppl going to BRS to get that buff when some can die until we get to ragnaros and even so, we already down him easily enough it doesn't payoff the work to get that buff imo. Good suggestion though (and I don't even know if it's lega, for the reasons mentioned above). For everyboss other than ragnaros, it's just not worth the trouble, at least for the bosses I know of, atm (maybe for some boss in BWL it might be^^)